comment turned post....
a few days ago I posted about a light bulb moment I had reading Amber’s blog and we got into a conversation about it in the comments that has lead to a few more light bulb moments – I figured since that post is getting buried by more posts and since I’m writing post length comments anyway, I might as well make a new post out of what I had to say back to Amber’s most recent comment
I can’t rehash the whole thing so if I don’t seem to be making sense you can go HERE to read that post and the comments attached to catch up =)
hmmm ok I'm sure I'll offend someone with this post but that's life I guess....
anyway in Amber’s most recent comment she was saying that: D/s and all it's various expressions is the most contrary, contradictory topic she’s ever tried to explain or understand
I feel the same way and have thought about that many times… I wonder if it’s so contradictory because of society and the way we were raised…. the times we were raised in… this whole idea is certainly nothing new, so I wonder how women dealt with it 100 years ago – 200, 1000 years ago – whatever ya know? not having lived in a time where women were looked at squirrelly if they didn’t try to act like men
that didn’t come out right hehehe - obviously I don’t mean a woman doing a traditionally male job is trying to act like a man…. but nowadays women are looked at badly if they appear more submissive, don’t work outside the home or don’t at least LOOK like they wear the pants! that sort of thing
(this is why I don’t write about this stuff much, everything seems to come out wrong!) hehehe
anyway since back in the olden days that wasn’t the case, women were expected to do the things we now feel guilty for wanting to do - I wonder if they had to deal with similar issues of guilt or thinking something was wrong with them when they had the same type of submissive feelings that we have…
maybe they had more religion related guilt attached to the whole sexual aspect more so than the day to day power exchange stuff – whereas I think nowadays for the most part we deal better with the sexual stuff because we’re bombarded with ‘kinky’ sexual images and words every day – we don’t live in an era of modesty by any means
not that we always deal well with the sexual stuff either but speaking for myself anyway I have less issues with my submissive role in the bedroom than I do outside of there – maybe that’s because it’s more hidden from the rest of the world… maybe it’s because I have a different idea of what sex should be haaaa
don’t get me wrong – there are certainly aspects of things that go through my mind as far as sex goes that make me feel guilty or like there’s something wrong with me (rape fantasies for example) but I don’t usually feel like I need to defend myself regarding those thoughts, as opposed to the day to day stuff
perhaps that’s because nobody else knows my private thoughts…. whereas people who come into my house or who see me and Sam interacting are able to notice certain things if they look closely.
who knows!! hehehe
in regards to me trying to figure out where and how I am submissive, Amber also said that she is very service oriented and that it sounds like I might be too….
I definitely am! and when I get overwhelmed by circumstances beyond my control (mainly my mother and or my sister) I start to shut down and the house gets messier and the meals get later and not as good – basically the quality of my service goes down – and the longer it goes on the worse it gets
this is one of the things I struggle with the most
and when people try to make more and more demands on my time they don’t seem to understand how important it is to me to make my home a nice place…. when I make plans (like babysitting for example) and I get held up by them they don’t understand why I’d get tweaked that I’m not home to get dinner ready, they say things like ‘can’t he make a sandwich or something?’
sure he can but that’s NOT the point!! the point is I feel like they are disregarding the fact that I want to get home and make a nice meal for my husband so he can relax and be fed after working hard all day!! they honestly don’t seem to understand why on earth I would care!!
my sister would always say ‘my husband can cook his own dinner if he gets hungry’ and when Sam worked with her husband he would tease Sam for calling me on his way home (which he did so I’d have an idea of when to have dinner ready because they worked unpredictable hours)
if I happened to be outside when him and his co-workers showed up the guys (not Sam) would say things like ‘dinner better be ready and on the table woman!’
like there is something wrong with wanting him to have a hot meal at the end of the day!!
I still don’t have any clue what these people are thinking!! but I do know that my sister’s marriage failed miserably…. I can’t help but think if they each put in more of an effort to make things nice for eachother and have some regard for the other that maybe they wouldn’t be getting divorced!!
it’s attitudes like theirs that make me stop and think maybe there IS something wrong with me, even though I know it’s them that should rethink their ideas, I still find myself feeling guilty for enjoying wanting to make a nice home that my husband wants to come back to after working hard all day dealing with the crap that comes with customers and co-workers and all that…. that guilt is what I was talking about earlier
Amber said “Then I get pissed off at feminism for making me ashamed of something that for eons was considered such a valuable role.
Then I remember that without feminism, I wouldn't have a choice and if I didn't have a choice, would I still feel that way about it?
Then I wonder if maybe they're right and there is just something wrong with me after all.
And so it goes. The never-ending analysis and questioning.”
and I find I get pissed off at the whole feminist thing too…. for a long time I would blame feminism for the downfall of our society – the fact that nobody is home raising the kids anymore, instilling morals and raising self esteem and all that….
then I realized too that it’s not feminism…. not the original idea of it anyway
but something has happened to that idea along the way… it’s gone from the idea that women deserve the right to choose what they want to do with their lives and that they deserve equal pay for equal jobs to YOU MUST WORK AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE BETTER/STRONGER/SMARTER THAN MEN!!! it’s not about equality at all anymore – it almost seems like it’s about proving that men are obsolete
I would probably consider myself a feminist based on the original meaning but certainly not by today’s standards!!
because in the times we live in now, the current meaning of that word is skewed…. I FULLY AGREE that women deserve the right to choose what they want out of life and if they choose to work that they deserve equal pay and all that but I’m so sick of this ‘anti-woman’ look given to those of us who don’t choose what the majority thinks we should – like now that we have a right to do ‘MORE’ (whatever that means) we MUST or we’re some kind of traitor to our sex
was it really about the right to choose or was it more about proving that we’re better?
I'm tired of feeling ashamed for the way I feel in my heart about what’s right for me just because some twits have gone and gotten confused about the idea of what it means to be a woman…. and to have the right to CHOOSE our own paths!!!
I can’t help but wonder how that attitude is working for them as far as their relationships go…. I can’t help but think there must be some sort of a connection between this warped idea of feminism and the rising divorce rate – AND the fact that kids these days seem to be living by what little wits they have!! I could go on and on about this and maybe some day soon I will but for now I think I better shut up hehehe
my point is that we're all just people, we deserve EQUAL rights – I feel equally as strong about a man having the right to choose to stay home while his wife goes off to work without being made to feel guilty or like some kind of freak as I do about me having the right to the choices I’ve made for my life…. I’m sure house husbands/stay at home father’s get the same squirrelly looks…. and it’s BULLSHIT
this isn’t some kind of Stepford world, we can’t all do the same things – and I can’t understand why anyone cares what anyone else is doing so long as nobody is getting hurt!!!
what ever happened to live and let live?












